[22:39, 7/28/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Hello Mama. Hope u r doing good. I just thought of fund raising to support our family members during the ongoing pandemic as many are without job or salary or no source of income like vimala daughter (raji aunty daughter), vijayalakshmi family (sathyamoorthy daughter).
[22:52, 7/28/2020] Ram: Good idea what is the plan
[22:55, 7/28/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Any contribution is fine. Even 3rd daughter of satyamoorthy is struggling
[22:55, 7/28/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: We can distribute equally to all 3 families
[23:00, 7/28/2020] Ram: is this Anitas parents ?
[23:09, 7/28/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Anitas parent is vijayalakshmi. I quoted in 1st msg
[23:27, 7/28/2020] Ram: Naidu please give me full details of all three families. Father Mother and Children with names ages and details of income they have to determine what we need to do to help out. Yes I want to help but how much and for how long we need to decide. We need to probably supply provisions for them and not cash that could get wasted and they could become dependent on us. How is your job and Jaykars going ? How about Sathis sons ? Babu and Gajendra?
[23:31, 7/28/2020] Ram: Naidu keep this to yourself. The situation in Sydney is even worse as as I have not worked since 2000 and aunty since 2014 and now Anand and Jess do not have an income as their music business folded. Ashwin lost his job. Sheels income is down as teaching hours are reduced because of Covid. so we do not know how long we can stretch the retirement money as cost of living in sydney is extremely high. In a matter of years we will have to sell the house and move into smaller flats and cash up for our future. how is your job going and Jaykars ? What my concern is that we do not raise their hopes and disappoint them. so we need a firm plan of action. are you in a position to help ? you have to be careful too as you have a family depending on you
[23:54, 7/28/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Mama vimala (eldest daughter of raji atthai) now trying to meet ends through cooking at a neighbour residence hardly she would make Rs 3000/month from this. Her husband I dont really remember his name. He works has at a nearby college at some clerical post may be he would be earning Rs 8,000/ month. He is not getting his salary now as college is not functioning these days. They live in their own house. I just offered them Rs 2000 today before i wrote you. I sent same msg to chamakka pedhamma, roji akka and jayakar as well.
[23:55, 7/28/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: They have only a daughter in completing class 10 (15 yrs now).
[23:58, 7/28/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: 2nd is vijayalakshmi (2nd daughter of satyamoorthy). She is house wife, and her husband into driving auto rickshaw. Now due to lock down and high control measures and lower public venturing out there is no income hardly few bucks now (earlier from march no money). They have 2 daughters also, 1st daughter 17yrs old daughter doing diploma in electronics engineering (sponsored indirectly by chammakka pedhamma). 2nd Anita into class 11(16 yrs).
[23:59, 7/28/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Dharani(3rd daughter of satyamoorthy), house wife and husband is an electrician.he was not making enough money before lock down too. Now the situation ia worse.
[24:01, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Thing is they all would get government free provisions like rice, oil, wheat, sugar. They may need the spices, dhall, gas for stove, milk and other basics for daily use.
[24:03, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: I too out of my clinker cooler business as of now as principal felt there is no business for the next 6 months atleast. They will come back to me as market restores and travelling resumes.So no salary, i hope i have enough to survive the storm atleast for few years. However i am into trading now and Lavanya is working as a software engineer.
[24:04, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Jayakar is working with fiat chrysler, he had salary cut by 20 or 30%
[24:04, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Mama pls keep above info personal
[24:07, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Trading on fuel for cement plant and machinery
[24:08, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: My suggestion is 3k max per family from all cummulative contributions should be fine
[24:09, 7/29/2020] Ram:
1- Vimala Husband and 15year old daughter (3 adults) ,
2- Vijay Laxmi, Husband and two adult daughters (4adults),
3- Dharani and husband (2 adults)
so total 9 adults.
What is the minimum they will need per moth per adult ?
[24:10, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: 3rd dharani has 2 sons age 16 yrs and 13 yrs
[24:10, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: I missed it sorry
[24:17, 7/29/2020] Ram:
1- Vimala Husband and 15year old daughter (3 adults) ,
2- Vijay Laxmi, Husband and two adult daughters (4adults),
3- Dharani, husband and 2 sons (4 adults)
so total 11 adults.
What is the minimum they will need per month per adult as a family?
[24:17, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: If they take freebies from government a family of 3 to 4 would need 3000 to 5000 for buying provisions apart from rice, wheat and dhall. They have to buy milk, gas, pay electricity. I suggest we can only contribute as cash as we cant order milk, other provision (deliver),gas stove and etc
[24:18, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Could we talk mama
[24:18, 7/29/2020] Ram: no my hearing is very bad and have to wear hearing aid
[24:19, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Understood. No worries
[24:20, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: How do we calculate for gas, electricity, other extra provisions and things on per head basis mama
[24:20, 7/29/2020] Ram: Rough guess
[24:21, 7/29/2020] Ram: Think Chuchi is also helping out one of them
[24:21, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: I think it is dharani
[24:21, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: If so we can leave that family
[24:22, 7/29/2020] Ram: I dont know if Chuch is helping every months we need to find out
[24:22, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: I think so. Better, if u could check with chuchi akka
[24:25, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: May be 1000/head
[24:26, 7/29/2020] Ram: let us say we give Rs 3000 to each family every month. that is Rs 9000 a month. Rs 84000 a year. We have to plan for atleast 2 years so it is Rs 1.68 lakhs. Has Chammakka responded. What ever we do we need to do it discreetly so they do not feel ashamed.
[24:27, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Yet to year from chamakka pedhamma
[24:28, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: We dont commit any time. Once things restore to normal may be in 5 or 6 months we can stop it
[24:29, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: India is getting out of lock down step by step (infection would increase), but business will start to move forward from zero
[24:31, 7/29/2020] Ram: Let us think this through carefully . No Ra we don't commit but Trust me it will go one for 2 years or so. Even if covid goes people wont get jobs and earn as much as before. it is going to take a long time. I want you to be very careful and plan for two years at least as a minimum for your own family. Now how do we disperse the amounts. Put money into their accounts every month automatic transfers ?
[24:33, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Who afe Sathi's sons? Loghaih (Eldest son of satya moorthy), is into driving lorries abd he is managing himself.Gajendra babu is into acting driver (now the income is low as no duties), his wife is working, staying in own house so not much trouble.
Babu (thalli aunty son), he is into government job as bus conductor (he is getting his full salary).
[24:34, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Putting money into their account directly is best.
[24:35, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Seems pedhamma has read the msg, but no reply
[24:38, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Offcourse, i am covered for longer than that
[24:46, 7/29/2020] Ram: Naidu between me and you. Chammakka Pinni and I disagree on every thing. So dont tell her anything about me yet. The way I am thinking. You dont give anything Just look after yourself. Between me and Chammakka we should be able to give Rs 5000 per family every month. 3 families Rs 15000 a month x 12 =Rs 1.8 lakhs or Rs 90,000 each per year. We don't have to tell them anything about how long etc but I am just planning ahead. I am feeling sad and a bit depressed. I was trying to get Anita into a better school as she wanted to study medicine. nothing is possible now
[01:51, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Anita is in class 11 now. She scores 80+ marks. Getting into medical school with this mark is impossible in government college. Also now they have to crack NEET (national entrance exam for medical admission- pan india exams).
[01:57, 7/29/2020] Ram: Good Night Naidu It is 2.00am now
[02:03, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Good night mama
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[19:15, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Hello mama.
[19:16, 7/29/2020] Ram: HELLO
[19:16, 7/29/2020] Ram: MY KEY BOPARD BATTERY IS VERY LOW. NEEDS CHARGING
[19:33, 7/29/2020] Ram: Getting Charged now. Have you heard from MP what is her reaction ?
[19:34, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Chammaka pedhamma spoke now
[19:34, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: MP?
[19:43, 7/29/2020] Ram: Sorry, in a very bad mood after reading a womans body was removed from the pyre as she was a Dalit Woman. I curse these evil men with Covid deaths
[19:43, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: How do we overcome these situations?
[19:53, 7/29/2020] Ram: Grab the bastards and throw them behind bars without trial for ten years and then you will see the Upercaste bastards wont have the balls to even open their mouths
[19:54, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Indian law system is fucking shit and we get results after ages.
[19:54, 7/29/2020] Ram: There should be a special court just for crimes on Dalits
[19:56, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Omg. I hate indian legal system. For everything they drag for ages. Law should be like arab countries
[20:02, 7/29/2020] Ram: all kids call her Mammu Pedamma so MP. Like Military Police 😱
[20:04, 7/29/2020] Ram: agree. but the ones who will have their hands and head cut will be the poor in India
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[17:02, 8/1/2020] Ram: How come we have not continued this discussion. What did chammakka say ? We cannot allow family members struggle. We need to help them Asap. Hema Thaliakkas grand daughter also is not working. She just wrote to me
[18:39, 8/1/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Mama, i spoke to chammaka pedhamma and chuchi akka. Chuchi akka said, she is not rendering help to dharani on continous basis, so have to include her.
[18:40, 8/1/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Even pushpalatha (eldest daughter of satyamoorthy), her husband ia not getting salary for last 4 months now.
[18:46, 8/1/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Chamakka pedhamma said, we can consider 5k per family max/month. She wanted to do transfer from india account of hers using the signed cheque Manju pinni has
[19:19, 8/1/2020] Ram: It is Not possible to transfer from Chammakkas to their account without her authorisation. I too have an IOB account and Manju has cheques but I cannot do this online with IOB. Sending e transfer from Sydney is expensive to send $100 they will charge $20 fee and the bank at the other end will charge a fee too. So ideally we have to set up a Trust account with you me chammakka and Chuchi only if she wants to. Chuchi has mental issues and will complicate matters best to ask her to give money to you for dispersal. so we have 4 families needing Rs5000 a month. What is your position can you afford to give Rs 5000 a month. Sheel also has money in her account in Madras and best you ask her too. We need Rd 20000 a month and say for 12 months max = Rs 2.4 lakhs meani…
[14:15, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Mama. Sorry for delayed reply.
[14:26, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Just happened to go through whats app deeply. Chammakka pedhamma wannted to do micro management by ordering provisions (paying at the store), paying for milk and gas separately for each family (rather thab paying them directly cash). This becomes a tedious job with nos of families involved. Better my suggestion is we offer them 3k/month for provision and milk+ gas 1k. Max 4k. Excess payment is not going to help the case. 5k commitment from me would be tough mama. I dont have sheela pinni contact number and also i am not as close to sheela pinni as you and chammakka pedhamma are. It shall be great if you could help in with sheela pinni.
[14:43, 8/2/2020] Ram: No Micro Management. There is no way you can go and buy all these stuff and organise delivery etc..Covid does not permit all these actions. Don't risk your health. I am not going to argue with Chammakka.. Suggest you don't contribute but take the responsibility to see each family gets the money they need. This is what I am thinking. Rs4000 x 4 (4 Families) X 6 months = Rs 96000. I will ask Manju to give you a cheque for Rs 1 Lakh to cover the first six months. We need to do it. straight away. Are you in a Position to pay Rs 5000 to all four families today. If yes do that and then deduct from my contribution. 5000 first month and 4000 every months that takes cares of Rs 1 Lakh from me. Tell Chammakka that I have given the ,money and she can support after s…
[16:17, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Understood mama. I will pay them today.
[17:00, 8/2/2020] Ram: Good pay them all Rs 5000 this month collect their bank details and deposit Rs 4000 on the 1st of Every month. Mudhal Thedhi Sambalam like. Hope this will help them out a bit at least. Best not tell any body. Let this be between you and the four ladies no need for children to know. Dont even tell them it is from me unless you have to. Tell them it is a combined effort may be
[17:15, 8/2/2020] Ram: Naidu Manju wants you to collect the cheque from her. So Please phone and her and tee up a Time that suits you both. Thanks for all that you are doing Ra. Chottakka always told me you were a lovely kid and a dada.👍👍👍 she will be very proud of you if she knows what you are doing
[21:33, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Mama who is hema actually at thalli attha family?
[21:37, 8/2/2020] Ram: Interesting I did not know any one until you organised the big get Together. Hema is Thalli Akkas second Daughters Daughter and is an IT worker. For some reason I took to Anita and Hema and been in touch with both in whatsapp. Occassionally I get a message from Laxmi Priya.. See this is why I wanted the Family Tree done and never happened. I can do it provided I get the correct Information.
[21:43, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Mama i knew she would be daughter of sarala akka (i was not sure whether she was 1st or 2nd daughter). 1st daughter is married and 2nd daugter lives with parents. I just spoke to her from whats app.
[21:43, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: She said she doesnt need tye help now.
[21:44, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Seems she is without projects for last 2 months and her father is working.
[21:44, 8/2/2020] Ram: Good. Hope you did not tell her what we are planning
[21:45, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Not the whole stuff, i said we are trying to help ppl and if you need help anytime, pls reach me
[21:47, 8/2/2020] Ram: Good
[21:49, 8/2/2020] Ram: Also Naidu you tell the four families they are not to tell anyone about this. If they do you will become the target. So be careful and keep this under wraps.
[21:53, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Sure mama
[22:00, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Mama, i will have mini grp u, me and chamakka pedhamma if you agree to discuss on this helping matter. That makes things easy to communicate.
[22:00, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: It is tough for me to upraise both separately each time😄
[22:03, 8/2/2020] Ram: No Naidu. I have given you the money for next six months. No need to discuss anything further. Tell Chammakka that I have given Rs 1 Lakh if you want to. Now dont tell her I dont want to be part of the Group. I quit all whatsapp groups as they only lead to conflicts
[22:03, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Also i request we shall maintian same value 4k each month from now on to avoid any expectation issues. This month 5k nd later 4k will raise their eye brows
[22:03, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Understood
[22:04, 8/2/2020] Ram: OK what ever. you are the Project Manager
[22:04, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Haha🤔
[13:04, 8/3/2020] Ram: Naidu I am planning to share the following message with Chammakka, Manju, Sheela, Roji, Boby, & Chuchi, about assisting Saidapet cousins in dire straits. Check and tell me if this is Ok and I will send it after I get Your OK.👇👇👇
[13:05, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Pls do mama
[13:23, 8/3/2020] Ram: Last week I received a Whatsapp message from Jairam Naidu saying some of our cousins children in Saidapet are struggling and doing it tough as they have lost jobs and have little or no income and he has assisted them with small amounts so far but not in a position to do this every month, which is understandable as he has his wife and children to look after first.. The Families struggling are : 1 - Rajiakkas Daughter Vimala+Husband+15year old son, 2- Sathy's eldest daughter - Pushpa Latha and Husband, 3- Sathy's Daughter Vijaya Laxmi+husband=2 daughters, 4- Sathys Daughter Dharani+Husband+ 2 Sons.. So there are 4 families needing support.. Yesterday I asked Manju to give Jairam a cheque for Rs One Lakh and Jairam will to Rs 4000 to 4 families each month for six months bringing the total to Rd 96000. Hopefully by Christmas things might improve and they may start working and earning. All families receive PDS supply of Rice, Oil, Wheat and Sugar I am told. If you want to assist please let Jairam Know.
[13:24, 8/3/2020] Ram: You want anything changed please let me know. Did you manage to collect the cheque from manju yesterday?
[13:25, 8/3/2020] Ram: Naidu, how is Sathy's wife managing financially ?
[13:28, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Mama she gets pension.
[13:29, 8/3/2020] Ram: so is she ok Financially ? Is she living on her own or with a daughter ?
[13:29, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Living on own
[13:31, 8/3/2020] Ram: OK may be we should give her a lump some of say Rs 25000 just in case. may be later.
[13:31, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: No mama, yesterday i was tied up with some domestic function. I msged last evening to manju pinni just a casual msg, she seems to have read and hasnt responded yet. I will call her today.
[13:33, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: I have received account details of dharani, vijayalakshmi and vimala, today i will complete the payments.
[13:34, 8/3/2020] Ram: Manju as you know is not well as she and her husband Du Bil both have cancer and now they have no servants. so she does not respond to whatsapp messages promptly.
[13:34, 8/3/2020] Ram: That leaves Puspalatha. Excellent Job Ra. God Bless you.
[13:35, 8/3/2020] Ram: is my letter ok or you wants any edit
[13:36, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Understood. Let me call her today. Also chammakka pedhamma was asking for a in residence maid yesterday to assist them as they have 3 elders. I wrote manju pinni on this well, but no reply. Anyway i will wait.
[13:36, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: I will get pushpalatha details as well details
[13:36, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: No issues, you can share the same.
[13:44, 8/3/2020] Ram: Ok have a great Day
[13:45, 8/3/2020] Ram: I am sending as individual messqges to each one. dont want any family discuissions
[13:46, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: 👍
[13:47, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: But easier to discuss through grp as it saves your time😄
[13:54, 8/3/2020] Ram: No gives rise to too many opinions and often leads to arguments. so maintaining peace is the criteria and not saving time
[13:58, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: You are wiser mama
[14:01, 8/3/2020] Ram: It is easier to converse with individuals one on one than with groups as it gives birth to herd mentality where the groups splits on ideologies and start a war within a group.
[16:46, 8/6/2020] Ram: Naidu is the money into your account yet ?
[16:50, 8/6/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Not yet.. pinni said to drop the cheque at her nearest branch of my bank. Waiting for the same
[20:27, 8/6/2020] Ram: You mean things are so bad in Madras that you cant go to purasawalkam and pick the cheque up. Hope nothing goes wrong in the process
My street was under complete lockdown (both ends closed as we had 20+ positive cases for last 20 days. They opened up only on Tuesday. Also pinni was happy in dropping the cheque rather than entertaining me considering the lock down condition at my place
Ram: OMG Did not know any of this.
[01:08, 8/14/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: I just got little free and planning to send in payments tonight to 3 families. I am sorry for the delay. Manju pinni is busy i hope and hence the cheque drop is yet to be completed at her end. I wrote her a remainder by tuesday.
[02:01, 8/14/2020] Ram: You mean you have not got the money in your account. I am concerned Naidu. Best is to collect the cheque some how and bank it yourself We dont want the cash to go missing.
[24:17, 8/19/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Gave 3 families 4k each.
[24:18, 8/19/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Received 1 lakh from manju pinni. Thanks for your support
[11:15, 8/19/2020] Ram: Naidu I have to thank you for caring for the less fortunate family members and taking the initiative to help out. This is exactly what your Dad and Chottakka would have done if they were alive. All Punyam to You. Try and keep this a secret. No one needs to know and tell the three families not to talk about it.
[11:16, 8/19/2020] Ram: So it is Vimala and which two Sathys daughters ? Who was dropped from the list of four? I forget
Naidu Ignore this as I remember now Cheers
[22:52, 7/28/2020] Ram: Good idea what is the plan
[22:55, 7/28/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Any contribution is fine. Even 3rd daughter of satyamoorthy is struggling
[22:55, 7/28/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: We can distribute equally to all 3 families
[23:00, 7/28/2020] Ram: is this Anitas parents ?
[23:09, 7/28/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Anitas parent is vijayalakshmi. I quoted in 1st msg
[23:27, 7/28/2020] Ram: Naidu please give me full details of all three families. Father Mother and Children with names ages and details of income they have to determine what we need to do to help out. Yes I want to help but how much and for how long we need to decide. We need to probably supply provisions for them and not cash that could get wasted and they could become dependent on us. How is your job and Jaykars going ? How about Sathis sons ? Babu and Gajendra?
[23:31, 7/28/2020] Ram: Naidu keep this to yourself. The situation in Sydney is even worse as as I have not worked since 2000 and aunty since 2014 and now Anand and Jess do not have an income as their music business folded. Ashwin lost his job. Sheels income is down as teaching hours are reduced because of Covid. so we do not know how long we can stretch the retirement money as cost of living in sydney is extremely high. In a matter of years we will have to sell the house and move into smaller flats and cash up for our future. how is your job going and Jaykars ? What my concern is that we do not raise their hopes and disappoint them. so we need a firm plan of action. are you in a position to help ? you have to be careful too as you have a family depending on you
[23:54, 7/28/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Mama vimala (eldest daughter of raji atthai) now trying to meet ends through cooking at a neighbour residence hardly she would make Rs 3000/month from this. Her husband I dont really remember his name. He works has at a nearby college at some clerical post may be he would be earning Rs 8,000/ month. He is not getting his salary now as college is not functioning these days. They live in their own house. I just offered them Rs 2000 today before i wrote you. I sent same msg to chamakka pedhamma, roji akka and jayakar as well.
[23:55, 7/28/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: They have only a daughter in completing class 10 (15 yrs now).
[23:58, 7/28/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: 2nd is vijayalakshmi (2nd daughter of satyamoorthy). She is house wife, and her husband into driving auto rickshaw. Now due to lock down and high control measures and lower public venturing out there is no income hardly few bucks now (earlier from march no money). They have 2 daughters also, 1st daughter 17yrs old daughter doing diploma in electronics engineering (sponsored indirectly by chammakka pedhamma). 2nd Anita into class 11(16 yrs).
[23:59, 7/28/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Dharani(3rd daughter of satyamoorthy), house wife and husband is an electrician.he was not making enough money before lock down too. Now the situation ia worse.
[24:01, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Thing is they all would get government free provisions like rice, oil, wheat, sugar. They may need the spices, dhall, gas for stove, milk and other basics for daily use.
[24:03, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: I too out of my clinker cooler business as of now as principal felt there is no business for the next 6 months atleast. They will come back to me as market restores and travelling resumes.So no salary, i hope i have enough to survive the storm atleast for few years. However i am into trading now and Lavanya is working as a software engineer.
[24:04, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Jayakar is working with fiat chrysler, he had salary cut by 20 or 30%
[24:04, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Mama pls keep above info personal
[24:07, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Trading on fuel for cement plant and machinery
[24:08, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: My suggestion is 3k max per family from all cummulative contributions should be fine
[24:09, 7/29/2020] Ram:
1- Vimala Husband and 15year old daughter (3 adults) ,
2- Vijay Laxmi, Husband and two adult daughters (4adults),
3- Dharani and husband (2 adults)
so total 9 adults.
What is the minimum they will need per moth per adult ?
[24:10, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: 3rd dharani has 2 sons age 16 yrs and 13 yrs
[24:10, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: I missed it sorry
[24:17, 7/29/2020] Ram:
1- Vimala Husband and 15year old daughter (3 adults) ,
2- Vijay Laxmi, Husband and two adult daughters (4adults),
3- Dharani, husband and 2 sons (4 adults)
so total 11 adults.
What is the minimum they will need per month per adult as a family?
[24:17, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: If they take freebies from government a family of 3 to 4 would need 3000 to 5000 for buying provisions apart from rice, wheat and dhall. They have to buy milk, gas, pay electricity. I suggest we can only contribute as cash as we cant order milk, other provision (deliver),gas stove and etc
[24:18, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Could we talk mama
[24:18, 7/29/2020] Ram: no my hearing is very bad and have to wear hearing aid
[24:19, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Understood. No worries
[24:20, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: How do we calculate for gas, electricity, other extra provisions and things on per head basis mama
[24:20, 7/29/2020] Ram: Rough guess
[24:21, 7/29/2020] Ram: Think Chuchi is also helping out one of them
[24:21, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: I think it is dharani
[24:21, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: If so we can leave that family
[24:22, 7/29/2020] Ram: I dont know if Chuch is helping every months we need to find out
[24:22, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: I think so. Better, if u could check with chuchi akka
[24:25, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: May be 1000/head
[24:26, 7/29/2020] Ram: let us say we give Rs 3000 to each family every month. that is Rs 9000 a month. Rs 84000 a year. We have to plan for atleast 2 years so it is Rs 1.68 lakhs. Has Chammakka responded. What ever we do we need to do it discreetly so they do not feel ashamed.
[24:27, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Yet to year from chamakka pedhamma
[24:28, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: We dont commit any time. Once things restore to normal may be in 5 or 6 months we can stop it
[24:29, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: India is getting out of lock down step by step (infection would increase), but business will start to move forward from zero
[24:31, 7/29/2020] Ram: Let us think this through carefully . No Ra we don't commit but Trust me it will go one for 2 years or so. Even if covid goes people wont get jobs and earn as much as before. it is going to take a long time. I want you to be very careful and plan for two years at least as a minimum for your own family. Now how do we disperse the amounts. Put money into their accounts every month automatic transfers ?
[24:33, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Who afe Sathi's sons? Loghaih (Eldest son of satya moorthy), is into driving lorries abd he is managing himself.Gajendra babu is into acting driver (now the income is low as no duties), his wife is working, staying in own house so not much trouble.
Babu (thalli aunty son), he is into government job as bus conductor (he is getting his full salary).
[24:34, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Putting money into their account directly is best.
[24:35, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Seems pedhamma has read the msg, but no reply
[24:38, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Offcourse, i am covered for longer than that
[24:46, 7/29/2020] Ram: Naidu between me and you. Chammakka Pinni and I disagree on every thing. So dont tell her anything about me yet. The way I am thinking. You dont give anything Just look after yourself. Between me and Chammakka we should be able to give Rs 5000 per family every month. 3 families Rs 15000 a month x 12 =Rs 1.8 lakhs or Rs 90,000 each per year. We don't have to tell them anything about how long etc but I am just planning ahead. I am feeling sad and a bit depressed. I was trying to get Anita into a better school as she wanted to study medicine. nothing is possible now
[01:51, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Anita is in class 11 now. She scores 80+ marks. Getting into medical school with this mark is impossible in government college. Also now they have to crack NEET (national entrance exam for medical admission- pan india exams).
[01:57, 7/29/2020] Ram: Good Night Naidu It is 2.00am now
[02:03, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Good night mama
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[19:15, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Hello mama.
[19:16, 7/29/2020] Ram: HELLO
[19:16, 7/29/2020] Ram: MY KEY BOPARD BATTERY IS VERY LOW. NEEDS CHARGING
[19:33, 7/29/2020] Ram: Getting Charged now. Have you heard from MP what is her reaction ?
[19:34, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Chammaka pedhamma spoke now
[19:34, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: MP?
[19:43, 7/29/2020] Ram: Sorry, in a very bad mood after reading a womans body was removed from the pyre as she was a Dalit Woman. I curse these evil men with Covid deaths
[19:43, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: How do we overcome these situations?
[19:53, 7/29/2020] Ram: Grab the bastards and throw them behind bars without trial for ten years and then you will see the Upercaste bastards wont have the balls to even open their mouths
[19:54, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Indian law system is fucking shit and we get results after ages.
[19:54, 7/29/2020] Ram: There should be a special court just for crimes on Dalits
[19:56, 7/29/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Omg. I hate indian legal system. For everything they drag for ages. Law should be like arab countries
[20:02, 7/29/2020] Ram: all kids call her Mammu Pedamma so MP. Like Military Police 😱
[20:04, 7/29/2020] Ram: agree. but the ones who will have their hands and head cut will be the poor in India
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[17:02, 8/1/2020] Ram: How come we have not continued this discussion. What did chammakka say ? We cannot allow family members struggle. We need to help them Asap. Hema Thaliakkas grand daughter also is not working. She just wrote to me
[18:39, 8/1/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Mama, i spoke to chammaka pedhamma and chuchi akka. Chuchi akka said, she is not rendering help to dharani on continous basis, so have to include her.
[18:40, 8/1/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Even pushpalatha (eldest daughter of satyamoorthy), her husband ia not getting salary for last 4 months now.
[18:46, 8/1/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Chamakka pedhamma said, we can consider 5k per family max/month. She wanted to do transfer from india account of hers using the signed cheque Manju pinni has
[19:19, 8/1/2020] Ram: It is Not possible to transfer from Chammakkas to their account without her authorisation. I too have an IOB account and Manju has cheques but I cannot do this online with IOB. Sending e transfer from Sydney is expensive to send $100 they will charge $20 fee and the bank at the other end will charge a fee too. So ideally we have to set up a Trust account with you me chammakka and Chuchi only if she wants to. Chuchi has mental issues and will complicate matters best to ask her to give money to you for dispersal. so we have 4 families needing Rs5000 a month. What is your position can you afford to give Rs 5000 a month. Sheel also has money in her account in Madras and best you ask her too. We need Rd 20000 a month and say for 12 months max = Rs 2.4 lakhs meani…
[14:15, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Mama. Sorry for delayed reply.
[14:26, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Just happened to go through whats app deeply. Chammakka pedhamma wannted to do micro management by ordering provisions (paying at the store), paying for milk and gas separately for each family (rather thab paying them directly cash). This becomes a tedious job with nos of families involved. Better my suggestion is we offer them 3k/month for provision and milk+ gas 1k. Max 4k. Excess payment is not going to help the case. 5k commitment from me would be tough mama. I dont have sheela pinni contact number and also i am not as close to sheela pinni as you and chammakka pedhamma are. It shall be great if you could help in with sheela pinni.
[14:43, 8/2/2020] Ram: No Micro Management. There is no way you can go and buy all these stuff and organise delivery etc..Covid does not permit all these actions. Don't risk your health. I am not going to argue with Chammakka.. Suggest you don't contribute but take the responsibility to see each family gets the money they need. This is what I am thinking. Rs4000 x 4 (4 Families) X 6 months = Rs 96000. I will ask Manju to give you a cheque for Rs 1 Lakh to cover the first six months. We need to do it. straight away. Are you in a Position to pay Rs 5000 to all four families today. If yes do that and then deduct from my contribution. 5000 first month and 4000 every months that takes cares of Rs 1 Lakh from me. Tell Chammakka that I have given the ,money and she can support after s…
[16:17, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Understood mama. I will pay them today.
[17:00, 8/2/2020] Ram: Good pay them all Rs 5000 this month collect their bank details and deposit Rs 4000 on the 1st of Every month. Mudhal Thedhi Sambalam like. Hope this will help them out a bit at least. Best not tell any body. Let this be between you and the four ladies no need for children to know. Dont even tell them it is from me unless you have to. Tell them it is a combined effort may be
[17:15, 8/2/2020] Ram: Naidu Manju wants you to collect the cheque from her. So Please phone and her and tee up a Time that suits you both. Thanks for all that you are doing Ra. Chottakka always told me you were a lovely kid and a dada.👍👍👍 she will be very proud of you if she knows what you are doing
[21:33, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Mama who is hema actually at thalli attha family?
[21:37, 8/2/2020] Ram: Interesting I did not know any one until you organised the big get Together. Hema is Thalli Akkas second Daughters Daughter and is an IT worker. For some reason I took to Anita and Hema and been in touch with both in whatsapp. Occassionally I get a message from Laxmi Priya.. See this is why I wanted the Family Tree done and never happened. I can do it provided I get the correct Information.
[21:43, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Mama i knew she would be daughter of sarala akka (i was not sure whether she was 1st or 2nd daughter). 1st daughter is married and 2nd daugter lives with parents. I just spoke to her from whats app.
[21:43, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: She said she doesnt need tye help now.
[21:44, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Seems she is without projects for last 2 months and her father is working.
[21:44, 8/2/2020] Ram: Good. Hope you did not tell her what we are planning
[21:45, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Not the whole stuff, i said we are trying to help ppl and if you need help anytime, pls reach me
[21:47, 8/2/2020] Ram: Good
[21:49, 8/2/2020] Ram: Also Naidu you tell the four families they are not to tell anyone about this. If they do you will become the target. So be careful and keep this under wraps.
[21:53, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Sure mama
[22:00, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Mama, i will have mini grp u, me and chamakka pedhamma if you agree to discuss on this helping matter. That makes things easy to communicate.
[22:00, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: It is tough for me to upraise both separately each time😄
[22:03, 8/2/2020] Ram: No Naidu. I have given you the money for next six months. No need to discuss anything further. Tell Chammakka that I have given Rs 1 Lakh if you want to. Now dont tell her I dont want to be part of the Group. I quit all whatsapp groups as they only lead to conflicts
[22:03, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Also i request we shall maintian same value 4k each month from now on to avoid any expectation issues. This month 5k nd later 4k will raise their eye brows
[22:03, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Understood
[22:04, 8/2/2020] Ram: OK what ever. you are the Project Manager
[22:04, 8/2/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Haha🤔
[13:04, 8/3/2020] Ram: Naidu I am planning to share the following message with Chammakka, Manju, Sheela, Roji, Boby, & Chuchi, about assisting Saidapet cousins in dire straits. Check and tell me if this is Ok and I will send it after I get Your OK.👇👇👇
[13:05, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Pls do mama
[13:23, 8/3/2020] Ram: Last week I received a Whatsapp message from Jairam Naidu saying some of our cousins children in Saidapet are struggling and doing it tough as they have lost jobs and have little or no income and he has assisted them with small amounts so far but not in a position to do this every month, which is understandable as he has his wife and children to look after first.. The Families struggling are : 1 - Rajiakkas Daughter Vimala+Husband+15year old son, 2- Sathy's eldest daughter - Pushpa Latha and Husband, 3- Sathy's Daughter Vijaya Laxmi+husband=2 daughters, 4- Sathys Daughter Dharani+Husband+ 2 Sons.. So there are 4 families needing support.. Yesterday I asked Manju to give Jairam a cheque for Rs One Lakh and Jairam will to Rs 4000 to 4 families each month for six months bringing the total to Rd 96000. Hopefully by Christmas things might improve and they may start working and earning. All families receive PDS supply of Rice, Oil, Wheat and Sugar I am told. If you want to assist please let Jairam Know.
[13:24, 8/3/2020] Ram: You want anything changed please let me know. Did you manage to collect the cheque from manju yesterday?
[13:25, 8/3/2020] Ram: Naidu, how is Sathy's wife managing financially ?
[13:28, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Mama she gets pension.
[13:29, 8/3/2020] Ram: so is she ok Financially ? Is she living on her own or with a daughter ?
[13:29, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Living on own
[13:31, 8/3/2020] Ram: OK may be we should give her a lump some of say Rs 25000 just in case. may be later.
[13:31, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: No mama, yesterday i was tied up with some domestic function. I msged last evening to manju pinni just a casual msg, she seems to have read and hasnt responded yet. I will call her today.
[13:33, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: I have received account details of dharani, vijayalakshmi and vimala, today i will complete the payments.
[13:34, 8/3/2020] Ram: Manju as you know is not well as she and her husband Du Bil both have cancer and now they have no servants. so she does not respond to whatsapp messages promptly.
[13:34, 8/3/2020] Ram: That leaves Puspalatha. Excellent Job Ra. God Bless you.
[13:35, 8/3/2020] Ram: is my letter ok or you wants any edit
[13:36, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Understood. Let me call her today. Also chammakka pedhamma was asking for a in residence maid yesterday to assist them as they have 3 elders. I wrote manju pinni on this well, but no reply. Anyway i will wait.
[13:36, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: I will get pushpalatha details as well details
[13:36, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: No issues, you can share the same.
[13:44, 8/3/2020] Ram: Ok have a great Day
[13:45, 8/3/2020] Ram: I am sending as individual messqges to each one. dont want any family discuissions
[13:46, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: 👍
[13:47, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: But easier to discuss through grp as it saves your time😄
[13:54, 8/3/2020] Ram: No gives rise to too many opinions and often leads to arguments. so maintaining peace is the criteria and not saving time
[13:58, 8/3/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: You are wiser mama
[14:01, 8/3/2020] Ram: It is easier to converse with individuals one on one than with groups as it gives birth to herd mentality where the groups splits on ideologies and start a war within a group.
[16:46, 8/6/2020] Ram: Naidu is the money into your account yet ?
[16:50, 8/6/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Not yet.. pinni said to drop the cheque at her nearest branch of my bank. Waiting for the same
[20:27, 8/6/2020] Ram: You mean things are so bad in Madras that you cant go to purasawalkam and pick the cheque up. Hope nothing goes wrong in the process
My street was under complete lockdown (both ends closed as we had 20+ positive cases for last 20 days. They opened up only on Tuesday. Also pinni was happy in dropping the cheque rather than entertaining me considering the lock down condition at my place
Ram: OMG Did not know any of this.
[01:08, 8/14/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: I just got little free and planning to send in payments tonight to 3 families. I am sorry for the delay. Manju pinni is busy i hope and hence the cheque drop is yet to be completed at her end. I wrote her a remainder by tuesday.
[02:01, 8/14/2020] Ram: You mean you have not got the money in your account. I am concerned Naidu. Best is to collect the cheque some how and bank it yourself We dont want the cash to go missing.
[24:17, 8/19/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Gave 3 families 4k each.
[24:18, 8/19/2020] ✔💚 JAIRAM NAIDU: Received 1 lakh from manju pinni. Thanks for your support
[11:15, 8/19/2020] Ram: Naidu I have to thank you for caring for the less fortunate family members and taking the initiative to help out. This is exactly what your Dad and Chottakka would have done if they were alive. All Punyam to You. Try and keep this a secret. No one needs to know and tell the three families not to talk about it.
[11:16, 8/19/2020] Ram: So it is Vimala and which two Sathys daughters ? Who was dropped from the list of four? I forget
Naidu Ignore this as I remember now Cheers
